check-your-privilege-feminists:
check-your-privilege-feminists:
So can we give a hand to all these celebrities speaking out against feminism? Because they’ve faced countless attacks for simply not wanting to associate with a hate group. It seems as though feminists believe that just because you’re a woman, you owe them something. Yet notice how none of these ladies say they are anti-woman. Yeah, that would be because you do not have to identify as a feminist to support women and equality… and you also certainly don’t owe selling yourself to the feminist movement. Especially because feminism really comes with so many negative connotations because it’s basically turned from a movement for equality into a glorified victim complex that promotes blatant sexism against men and advocates for special consideration and treatment towards women. Most people don’t oppose feminism because they oppose women or advocacy for women. They oppose it because of the harmful philosophies it perpetuates, like Patriarchy theory, and much of the harmful legislation that many feminists advocate for. And of course they probably oppose it because most feminists act like straight up jerks. I think Bjork said it pretty well, it’s more important to be doing positive stuff than complaining all the time.
So feminists, if you really still want people to join your movement, you better clean up your act. Because people right now see feminism for what it really is. And regardless of your dictionary definition of the term, actions speak far louder than words.
…Are you serious? “Sexism against men” IT DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT. Sexism only goes one way, and that’s in men oppressing women. “Glorified victim complex” is a crock of shit. Look at the statistics, there’s nothing made up about women being literal victims in so many things. “Harmful philosophies like Patriarchal theory” It’s not a fucking theory, it’s an actual thing that exists and is really goddamn obvious to see. “Harmful legislation” like what, equal pay? Reproductive freedom? Oh how terrible, women want to be treated like people. “Better to do important stuff than complain all the time” So are you saying women should simply accept things like rape culture, objectification, unequal economic opportunities, and domestic violence because addressing them isn’t important? What other “important” things would you have them doing, making babies and sandwiches for your misogynistic ass?
The reason feminism has such a negative connotation is because narrow-minded egotistical fuckwads, the vast majority of whom are male (because males have a vested interest in keeping women oppressed), spread this kind of ignorant hateful bullshit that proves that they don’t actually understand what feminism is about. And I suspect that that bleeds into the perceptions and choices of these celebrities, who are working in male-dominated industries.
I hate to break it to you, but feminism is not necessarily about equality. I don’t think I’ve encountered any feminists who want free reign to rape, murder, objectify, and control men like men currently do to women. Yes, that means that men will have to get knocked down a peg or twelve. But that’s not oppression, that’s fucking justice. And if you’re the kind of person who’s against that kind of justice, then you are absolutely part of the problem, and a shitty human being to boot.First of all, men do not have free reign to rape, murder, objectify, and control women in our society. In other societies that may be the case, but here in our first world democratic nations women do have equal rights to men. And feminists aren’t doing shit to help women facing actual oppression.
And now I’m going to prove everything you said to be wrong.
“Sexism only goes one way, and that’s in men oppressing women.” WRONG. In our society, there is substantial legal discrimination against men.
Men want protection against false rape allegations. They feel that a man’s life should not be ruined simply on the allegation of a woman who may be a vindictive liar. Currently, a woman can accuse a man of rape for no reason, and the man’s name is splashed in the paper and his life is ruined. So, they fought for laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged.
Feminists fought against this, causing it to fail. Also see here, the London Feminist Network campaigning to defeat the proposal.
Men want an end to the justice system favoring women simply because they are women, and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men.
Feminists fought against this, arguing that no woman should be sent to jail, even women who had murdered multiple people.
Men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies.
Feminists fought against this by trying to suppress evidence showing that half of domestic violence is done by women, by threatening the researchers with bomb threats, death threats, etc. Modern, younger feminists are doing it as well.
Men want female rapists to be arrested, charged, and convicted with rape. In Western countries, women are rarely punished when raping men, due to the biased legal system. In some countries, women cannot be punished when raping men, since rape is defined as a male-perpetrated crime.
Feminists fought against this in India, arguing that “there is a physicality [in] rape” and that it would make things “more complicated for judges.”
Feminists fought against this in Israel, claiming that changing the law would result in men filing false rape claims.
Men don’t want to be thrown in jail because they lost their jobs and temporarily cannot pay child support.
Feminists fought against this, trying to lower the amount to $5000 before a man is guilty of a felony for not paying child support. If a man loses a decent-paying job, he will now be a felon, go to jail, lose his right to vote, AND be unable to find future jobs—if he cannot regain an equal-paying job within a few months.
Men want equal economic support and help from the government. When the recession hit, male-dominated fields like construction lost millions of jobs, while female-fields like education and healthcare gained jobs. So the government proposed an economic stimulus for those fields.
Feminists successfully fought against this, arguing that it was discrimination to support men, and caused the government to give money to women who didn’t deserve it. Hundreds of professional feminists complained against the “sexism” of helping men (who had lost jobs) and not women (who had gained jobs).
A representative of the Michigan National Organization for Women testified in opposition to the Revocation of Paternity Act, which stopped the old law which stated that if a woman was married and cheated on her husband, the resulting child is considered to be legally the husband’s and the biological father had no legal rights to fight for custody or parenting time with his biological child.
In 2008, a law was passed in England and Wales that allowed long-term domestic violence victims who killed their abuser to be charged with the lesser charge of manslaughter, but this only applies to women.
In California and Montana, a woman can name any man she likes as the father, he gets a letter in the mail, if he does not prove he isn’t the father within 30 days he is now the father and must pay. He cannot contest it. And DNA tests to prove paternity are not considered proof by the courts.
Women who falsely accuse a man of rape, who would be sent to prison for 10+ years if convicted, only gets fined or a slap on the wrist.
There is also the gender bias in the Probation Departments:
A higher score on the Probation Assessment Tool (PAT) means a recommendation that could lead to eventual dismissal of charges. A lower score means probation or lockup, not to mention the juvenile delinquent tag. [Judge] Hunt claims PAT routinely rewards girls with 14 extra points for gender alone, while boys get 0.
Then there are studies that show women who fail to pay child support are incarcerated only 1/8th as often as men with similar violations.
- A man is approximately 165% more likely to be convicted than a woman
- Men are significantly more likely to be the victims of violent crime
- Men and Boys are doing worse in all aspects of the educational system, from kindergarten to university.
- Men suffer from Paternity fraud
- Female business owners get money from the government for being female. Males?no
- Some Airlines, have banned male from sitting next to children because they are men.
- Rape of males in Prison and jail
- Male circumcision is still legal
- Men often coerced into sex: study
- Boy victims of sex trafficking ignored
- Men are 93 % of work place death/violence.
- Eating disorders among men and boys
- Demonization of Male Sexuality
- Catastrophically high suicide male rate
- Literally zero male shelters
- 75-80% of the Homeless are men
- Family courts are bais against men.
- Breast Cancer gets more funding/research/drugs despite affecting men at a similar rate of women.
And the “sexist” wage gap you’re referring to? A myth.
Here is a comprehensive look prepared for the government specifically, 95 pages. Enjoy
http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdfHere are some by women
http://www.payscale.com/career-news/2009/12/do-men-or-women-choose-majors-to-maximize-income
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048.htmlUS Department of Labor
http://social.dol.gov/blog/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/So while the gap exists (more like lifetime earning gap), is it because you are oppressed for being women by this mysterious patriarchy who gave you everything you need and use to live and enjoy, or are most women either lazy or just dont care about money the way men do?
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The Gender Pay Gap is a Complete Myth
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28246928/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/Gender pay gap is not what activists claim
http://wwww.examiner.com/x-22884-Canada-Politics-Examiner~y2010m2d22-Gender-pay-gap-is-not-what-activists-claimEqual pay statistics are bogus because they don’t compare like with like
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/vickiwoods/7957186/Sorry-ladies-Im-not-worried-about-wage-gaps.htmlFair Pay Isn’t Always Equal Pay
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/22/opinion/22Sommers.html?_r=1&hpThe Wage Gap Myth
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_wage_gap_myth.html
Don’t Blame Discrimination for Gender Wage Gap
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-13/don-t-blame-discrimination-for-gender-wage-gap.htmlThe pay inequality myth: Women are more equal than you think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3pKN3XUKM&feature=youtu.beWomen Now a Majority in American Workplaces
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/06/business/economy/06women.html?_r=2Labor force participation rate for men has never been lower.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/biggest-shock-fridays-payroll-report-sorry-menShare of Men in Labor Force at All-Time Low
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/share-of-men-in-labor-force-at-all-time-low/?src=recgWomen In Tech Make More Money And Land Better Jobs Than Men
http://www.businessinsider.com/women-in-tech-make-more-money-and-land-better-jobs-than-men-2010-9Female U.S. corporate directors out-earn men: study
www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0752118220071107?feedType=RFemale CEOs outearned men in 2009.
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=10630664Women between ages 21 and 30 working full-time made 117% of men’s wages.
www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/nyregion/03women.html?_r=1&oref=sloginAccording to the U.S. Census Bureau, single women between 22 and 30 years old earn an average of $27,000 a year. That’s 8% more than comparable men.
http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/Young-Women-Earn-More-159818705.htmlWorkplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.htmlYoung Women’s Pay Exceeds Male Peers
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704421104575463790770831192.htmlThe 15 Jobs Where Women Earn More Than Men
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudreau/2011/03/14/jobs-where-women-earn-more-than-men/Women aged between 22 and 29 earn over £10 per hour on average, compared to men their same age who earn just under this amount.
http://www.womenintechnology.co.uk/news/young-women-earn-more-than-men—news-800761492Young women now earn more than men in UK http://www.womensviewsonnews.org/2011/10/young-women-now-earn-more-than-men-in-uk/
The only chairwoman in the FTSE 100 index of biggest British companies, when asked about government efforts to force companies to make at least 25% of board member to be female said: “there’s no real evidence to suggest women being on a board makes the companies any better – what we’re doing here is forcing an experiment.”
This was further supported in the book “Why Men Earn More” by Warren Farrell, Ph.D., examined 25 career/life choices men and women make (hours, commute times, etc.) that lead to men earning more and women having more balanced lives, and that showed how men in surveys prioritize money while women prioritize flexibility, shorter hours, shorter commutes, less physical risk and other factors conducive to their choice to be primary parents, an option men still largely don’t have. That is why never-married childless women outearn their male counterparts, and female corporate directors now outearn their male counterparts.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0752118220071107?feedTy…Farrell also lists dozens of careers, including fields of science, where women outearn men. Women simply have more options than men to be primary parents, and many of them exercise that option rather than work long, stressful hours. That is why 57% of female graduates of Stanford and Harvard left the workforce within 15 years of entry into the workforce.
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/03/15/optout.revolution/
This is an option few men have (try being a single male and telling women on the first date that you want to stay home).Blaming men for women’s choices is unfair. In fact research shows most men have no problem with their wives outearning them.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23413243Research also shows most working dads would quit or take a pay cut to spend more time with kids if their spouses could support the family.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/06/13/dads.work/index.htmlResearch also shows that parents share workloads more when mothers allow men to be primary parents.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-05-04-equal-parenting_N.htmABC News: “Is the Wage Gap Women’s Choice? Research Suggests Career Decisions, Not Sex Bias, Are at Root of Pay Disparity”
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/GiveMeABreak/story?id=797045&page=1&CMP=OTC-RThere is also the myth that women are kept out of certain more lucrative fields by sexism. The truth is that women stay away from math out of their own free choice
http://sify.com/news/women-stay-away-from-math-out-of-their-own-free-choice-news-scitech-kk1lubiiiee.htmlWomen In Science: No Discrimination, Says Cornell Study
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/women_science_no_discrimination_says_cornell_study-75984Let’s be real about the lack of women in tech
http://www.businessinsider.com/lets-be-real-about-the-lack-of-women-in-tech-2010-10Here are some by women
http://www.payscale.com/career-news/2009/12/do-men-or-women-choose-majors-to-maximize-income
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048.htmlUS Department of Labor
http://social.dol.gov/blog/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/Domestic violence? There’s no patriarchy involved there.
- Women are perpetrators often as men.
- Domestic violence being equally committed by women, only males get arrested
- Gay and bisexual men experience abuse in intimate partner relationships at a rate of 2 in 5, which is comparable to the amount of domestic violence experienced by heterosexual women.
- About 17-45% of lesbians report having been the victim of a least one act of physical violence perpetrated by a lesbian partner (1,5,6,13).
I’m sorry you don’t approve of these strong, successful and independent women not conforming to your bogus movement.
Dunst’s statements in that first image honestly kinda make me cringe, but otherwise a brilliant set of info.
Modern day feminism should go back to equality in life and social issues but extend to punishments as well: I’m sick of hearing how a guy can commit like tax fraud or assault and get jail for life and a woman can murder 900 people (mostly men and women with ‘interalized misogyny(!?) and get away with it. An extreme example sure but the point stands that a fucking murderder is free to walk around.